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EOZ SSj goku VS Buu saga SSJ3 goku vs kid buu
Topic Started: May 14 2012, 03:05 PM (1,715 Views)
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you see the topic...

who wins?

no trolling please, or throwing out others theories without backup, this is a debate forum/thread.
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I think SSj Goku wins. Based on what Goku said I see his base form as being a minimum of Mr Buu's power and with a x10 SSj multiplier it ends up something like this:

SSj3 Goku (Buu saga): 120
Kid Buu: 120
Mr Buu: 35
Base Goku (EOZ): 35 (Minimum)
SSj Goku (EOZ): 350 (Minimum)

So even using the minimum power I have for Goku he wins easily as a Super Saiyan.
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Base Goku wins. I have him a bit more powerful than SSjin 3 Goku who is above Pure Boo. Also, he has stamina advantage. He wins this one up.

Pure Boo: 100.
Full Power SSjin 3 Goku: 130.
Base Goku: 150.
Mr. Boo: 20 - 25.
SSjin Goku: 1,500 - 7,500.

SSjin Goku one-shots.
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It makes sence with base getting stronger and ssj multiply getting lower.

But imo EoZ SSJ Goku doesnt stand a chance against Buu saga SSJ3 Goku or Kid buu,
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Goku SSJ EOZ stomps.
Goku SSJ EOZ >>>> Goku SSJ3 ~ Kid Buu ~ Base Goku EOZ.
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In terms of power levels, the notion that Goku got roughly 400x stronger in just a few years would, or should, be hard for anyone to swallow.

I think people that follow such absurd logic is mostly due to Dragonball GT. If people would forget GT was ever made, they would look at the whole thing with an open mind, and realize that to believe such notion is ridiculous.
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Super Vegetto
May 14 2012, 03:34 PM
In terms of power levels, the notion that Goku got roughly 400x stronger in just a few years would, or should, be hard for anyone to swallow.

I think people that follow such absurd logic is mostly due to Dragonball GT. If people would forget GT was ever made, they would look at the whole thing with an open mind, and realize that to believe such notion is ridiculous.
Finally.

Toei Logic is absurd.
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Super Vegetto
May 14 2012, 03:34 PM
In terms of power levels, the notion that Goku got roughly 400x stronger in just a few years would, or should, be hard for anyone to swallow.

I think people that follow such absurd logic is mostly due to Dragonball GT. If people would forget GT was ever made, they would look at the whole thing with an open mind, and realize that to believe such notion is ridiculous.
Nope. I follow it regardless. It wouldn't matter if EOZ had Base Goku at Roshi's level - the jump to Gohan-Boo's level is insane nonetheless, so it's moot to me.

Anyway, I agree with TGZ.
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May 14 2012, 05:19 PM
Super Vegetto
May 14 2012, 03:34 PM
In terms of power levels, the notion that Goku got roughly 400x stronger in just a few years would, or should, be hard for anyone to swallow.

I think people that follow such absurd logic is mostly due to Dragonball GT. If people would forget GT was ever made, they would look at the whole thing with an open mind, and realize that to believe such notion is ridiculous.
Nope. I follow it regardless. It wouldn't matter if EOZ had Base Goku at Roshi's level - the jump to Gohan-Boo's level is insane nonetheless, so it's moot to me.

Anyway, I agree with TGZ.
Goku didn't think he could win against a guy that he thinks is as strong as the guy that was dead even with him 10 years ago...That means Goku hasn't improved that much.

Goku wanted to fight Oob at 100%, his full power is Ssj3, and btw fighter doesnt nead to tranform first and go 100%.

Goku could just test him like he did in Cell games against Cell and then go 100% if Oob would take big advantage.

Also there is no proof in DBZ that someone surpassed SSJ2 level in just base or SSJ.

Btw by your logic Base Vegeta in EoZ should be above SSJ3 Goku and Kid buu ?

Edited by Super Vegetto, May 14 2012, 05:55 PM.
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May 14 2012, 05:54 PM
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May 14 2012, 05:19 PM
Super Vegetto
May 14 2012, 03:34 PM
In terms of power levels, the notion that Goku got roughly 400x stronger in just a few years would, or should, be hard for anyone to swallow.

I think people that follow such absurd logic is mostly due to Dragonball GT. If people would forget GT was ever made, they would look at the whole thing with an open mind, and realize that to believe such notion is ridiculous.
Nope. I follow it regardless. It wouldn't matter if EOZ had Base Goku at Roshi's level - the jump to Gohan-Boo's level is insane nonetheless, so it's moot to me.

Anyway, I agree with TGZ.
Goku didn't think he could win against a guy that he thinks is as strong as the guy that was dead even with him 10 years ago...That means Goku hasn't improved that much.

Goku wanted to fight Oob at 100%, his full power is Ssj3, and btw fighter doesnt nead to tranform first and go 100%.

Goku could just test him like he did in Cell games against Cell and then go 100% if Oob would take big advantage.

Also there is no proof in DBZ that someone surpassed SSJ2 level in just base or SSJ.

Btw by your logic Base Vegeta in EoZ should be above SSJ3 Goku and Kid buu ?

You're absolutely right. Why would I think Base Goku could beat Good Boo after he discarded him as trash and the SSjin rule was still in effect? Darn, I should re-evaluate my life. See ya later... :'(
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They never told Goku about the Super Saiyan rule.

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GridZero
May 14 2012, 06:09 PM
They never told Goku about the Super Saiyan rule.

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On screen/panel. They could have easily done it in one of the many moments we weren't watching Goku.
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That's an assumption, and can't be supported by canon. ;)

But...

Them not telling Goku about the rule + Gohan/Trunks/Goten all going Super Saiyan anyways = logical conclusion that Goku wasn't thinking about that rule.
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GridZero
May 14 2012, 06:22 PM
That's an assumption, and can't be supported by canon. ;)

But...

Them not telling Goku about the rule + Gohan/Trunks/Goten all going Super Saiyan anyways = logical conclusion that Goku wasn't thinking about that rule.
It's also an assumption that no one told him.
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It's not an assumption. In no panel was the rule ever mentioned to him. If it didn't happen in the manga, it didn't happen at all. But, let's assume they told him.

Explain to me why would the rule matter to him after 3 guys broke it?

Furthermore, why, after 10 years would he even care?
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